Fine, I can adjust that at the firewall. 3. My clutch engages far to 'late' when i let go of the clutch lever. This is in my '88 and happened after I pulled out the 331 and put the stock engine back in place. 1971 510 BRE Race car Two 1969 Datsun 510's 1965 Ford Mustang1994 Ford Mustang, '76 710. prevoius... '78 620, '71 521, '68 510, new '76 B-210 '74 710 sedan. my set up (old clutch that the previous owner had installed. i like a quicker engagement, and since i know i have some freeplay, i … I didn't adjust it since it was not an adjustable type. After speaking with a couple of people I purchased and installed a new push rod and push rod bushing. The clutch engaged at approximately 1/3 … When I'm at a light and pull in the clutch it has to go all the way back to the bar to disengage the clutch. Did a clutch job on my 91 4runner SR5, 3.0 4x4 5 speed with a Luk Pro gold clutch kit, turned flywheel etc. then just take it to one of the shops that are telling you theres nothing wrong with it and hire them to adjust it.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,. How is an EFI to Carburetor generally conversion done? I … Any help would be greatly appreciated. We use cookies to give you the best possible experience on our website. This smell is usually created by the friction of a slipping clutch. LOL). Because of the detent in my clutch pedal, this can make it hard to control the rate at which the clutch engages. Other than the engagement point being all the way up at the top … MaybeI might want a later release collar (30501-0H600)? fine by me. Get your answers by asking now. Edit- it looks like I have this part already. It's wrongly in the 200mm list. Thanks. First of all I have a 92 with a 3vze. I will compare it to a stock 510 part. #2: Your clutch is actually worn out close to the end of it's maximum service life and will need to be replaced. The current amount of clutch drag is not enough to harness the power of an engine rev. On my 2006, the clutch engages at the very end of the lever travel. I've also seen two different length slave cylinders could yours be the longer one instead of the shorty? Amazing! Did you adjust the slave cylinder before removing the tranny? 1. Yes, this is "normal." By Probably what has happened is the collar from the 200sx was left on the clutch arm on the dogleg and used. I do have an early 510 fork and adjustable pushrod I can try to put in. I still can't find the correct part for my combination of parts. Please rate my answer. My first clutch always engaged at idle and the only way I could have fixed it was to put in higher-rate springs. Hopefully I get time this weekend to work on it again. It's possible that I have the wrong slave cylinder. The belt is gripped at all times and the clutches inside the clutch engage to get you moving. Searched to no avail. Table copied from the Internet. Your "high" clutch engagement is, again like worn brake pads/shoes. I went and dug out a 510 part from a spare 4pd and it is measuring much closer. to each his/her own. it came with a TOB, plate, disc and a crutch. Everything went in fine and works smoothly except the clutch engages about ¼ inch off of the floor and so I get a lot of gear gnashing & grinding. Shop says it start to enagage at about 26%. CONTENTS. When my stock clutch was on its last legs it was near the top of travel on the return where it started to engage. This pedal free-play ensures that when you release the pedal, the clutch disk is fully engaged. 1970 2-door 510, 1977 620 KC, 1973 610 Goon. How do i fix this?? The S10 200sx collar is part # 30501-K0400. My 510 has a 200sx dogleg trans with the 200mm clutch. Do you. Clutch only engages at the top Discussion in ' The Hokey Ass Message Board ' started by poboyross , Jun 13, 2009 .   Pasted as rich text. Shops says nothing is wrong with clutch. I remove the transmission today thinking my clutch was worn because the pedal would engage at the top of the pedal travel. Thanks. Heyo My k4 600 (9500kms) has a bit of a clutch issue. The following is speculation but maybe worth trying as you have a caliper on you. YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE THE CLUTCH ADJUSTED ELSEWHERE. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. it just needs to be adjusted. Thanks BTW it is a 95 Geo Prizm 1.6 and new clutch has about 2k on it. PAIN IN THE NECK! I just installed a luk pro gold clutch and r151f trans. Either it gets too much gas or not enought. I know I need about 1" of free play in the pedal. HI, IF THE CLUTCH HAS ONLY ABOUT 2K ON IT,THE PEDAL SHOULD ENGAGE AT ABOUT 2" OR SO FROM THE FLOOR . I had a loose nut on my clutch pedal assembly so I tightened it and got my pedal to work again (it had 4 inches of freeplay and didn't engage the clutch) I had it welded as well. Looks like a 240mm clutch collar. Well the clutch doesnt engage untill it is almost at the top. Thanks BTW it is a 95 Geo Prizm 1.6 and new clutch has about 2k on it. My question now: my clutch is like a VW - engages easy and immediately but needs to be fully 'at the grip' to get into Neutral (Ugh). have the same problem? Most people work those hours. Well the clutch doesnt engage untill it is almost at the top. That is why the clutch seems okay at higher revs. The duraclutch uses centrifugal clutches to engage the primary clutch. My stock clutch engaged at about 50%. Normally it means the clutch is worn and will need replacement in the near future. and have bleed my clutch 4 times now and it still engages right off the floor and is hard to shift because the clutch is dragging. They are really good for heavy hauling and towing or slow technical riding. Even with it depressed all the way to the floor, still clunks into gear. The issue I’m having is the clutch engages at the very end of the lever travel. D52E, January 3, 2016 in Drivetrain. HAPPY EASTER ! Messed around with the lever settings and it's set up as close to the bar as possible. If it’s accompanied by a rattling sound when the clutch is not in use, which increases in volume when the clutch engages, then you know that you might be looking at replacing your clutch soon. I will try to confirm the stroke after I put it together. There is no dead play in the pedal at all. Perhaps it's time for a clutch kit. As the Clutch wore, the engagement point traveled further and further up until it had no "noticeable" engagement point. I guess I will order a replacement bearing and see. SPONSORED LINKS. It's also possible you have a defective clutch. My other 5spds weren't like this at all. Difficulty Changing Gears HOW DOES THE CPR SR CLUTCH WORK? As far as I know, the newer clutches are much better, as I don't have any problems with mine engaging at idle. My 510 has a 200sx dogleg trans with the 200mm clutch. Clutch engages at the top can I adjust that so it engages closer to the floor? I have a 2001 Goldwing with 114,000 miles. The clutch actually engages way at the top. New friction plates will fix the problem. How does the Dry Centrifugal Clutch work? When your foot is off the clutch pedal, everything spins together. My 2002 bmw 330xi clutch doesn't engage when it's all the way down. Just before we kick off, a quick word to just what a clutch actually is. I have a manual MKV FSI GTI. I bought the car this way several years ago and it's always engaged the clutch up higher in the pedal travel. It looks like the 510 had a 3/4" (12/16") but the 200sx had 11/16". i have a smidge of freeplay dialed in. Upload or insert images from URL. Thanks. It should be 1.52" or just under 90mm. Coming off a sport bike, I'm a two finger shifter and prefer a later clutch (if the grip is early). I'm not sure if it's the clutch or the cylinder. No. UNLESS IT WAS NEVER ADJUSTED PROPERLY AFTER INSTALLATION. Much to my surprise the clutch disk looked good.   Your previous content has been restored. Dimension A looks like it's about 48.7mm (I got it as close as possible to the retainer edge). About inch and a half to two inch from when pedal is depressed. 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What is the mimimum speed I need to travel at to stop my clutch from failing? In retrospect I could have tried a shorter modified pushrod temporarily to see if would improve. as the 5 speeds came and usea different slave cylinder rod which I think is shorter. No just bought the truck last night, 2000 - Answered by a verified Ford Mechanic. Discussion Starter • #1 • Aug 20, 2012. Edit: FYI, too = top… Iknew I should have down it myself. The problem was fixed but now it engages the clutch about 1 inch off the ground. the clutch still engages about half way down. You don’t loose any top speed to speek of though. Either it gets too much gas or not enought. Not positive but you have to figure this out. Im still deciding if I should just buy a new clutch kit with the matching collar and call it good. Place the collar and bearing against the diaphragm fingers and measure down, from the very back of the collar, to the clutch disc contact surface on the flywheel. Gas milage has gone way down. Paste as plain text instead, × When you press the pedal in, the assembly disengages. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. If you had to divide the clutch space into 1/4's, the clutch would engage in the later 1/4.. my friends would engage in the 3/4's ..or in other words theirs would engage about under an inch as you let go.. but mine engages nearly at the very end !! Hope this weekend works out. Learn how to install a dry clutch by CLICKING HERE. × My replacement Spec setup engages a little higher, but it is all the way out sooner. Learn how to service and repair a CPR SR clutch by CLICKING HERE . Clear editor. Sometimes, though, I think it’s just luck of the draw with how the installation of the most recent clutch went. Stock flywheel, FMS King Cobra clutch & PP, IIRC stock cable and FMS aluminum quadrant. In post 6 that's a 510 set up right there this will work for the stock 510 clutch and the Roadster clutch as the diaprame heath is the same. I bought it used and the clutch has always felt a bit weird to me. I also run the 4 speed clutch fork on my 200sx 5 spped so I need its loose. Can you adjust travel at the master? Dimension L+C is 34.7mm. Yeah that 30501-0H600 is for a 240mm clutch from a D21 or Exterra. 2. What's your clutch like? Can someone confirm the correct release bearing collar length?   Your link has been automatically embedded. But as of now, the clutch engages right when the pedal is at the top of its travel-- basically almost all the way out. A friend of mine told me you can adjust the clutch pedal so that it has some dead play in it and that way the clutch doesn't actually engage until further down the push. My new clutch started to engage about an inch off the floor. If it's 1.1" it's fine. Yes. Much to my surprise the clutch disk looked good. Do I pry this cover off first before using the transmission line removal tool because I can't seem to slide it through as is? Shop says it start to enagage at about 26%. GOOD LUCK. 126 Posts . There is just barely enough room to have two fingers on the grip in between the clutch lever. You can post now and register later. I think I might have the wrong release bearing collar. Edit: I went to rockauto and confirmed bore size on slave from 510 to 200sx. Your clutch pedal should move down 3/4 inch to 1 inch without effort and then require a good deal more effort to travel the rest of the way down to the floor. 1. now if  200SX CLUTCH IS USED THE DIAPRAME HEIGHT IS DIFFERENT AND maybe the slave rod is to long/shot. Also never ever rev up the engine with clutch attached and drum removed! Why are most auto shops open Monday through Friday from 8-5? I remove the transmission today thinking my clutch was worn because the pedal would engage at the top of the pedal travel. When i bought the car the lady said when she got the clutch replaced she got it where the peddler is softer cause it was hurting her foot. The clutch pedal. It doesn't seem to be slipping. What type car uses Sylvania 1157 LL light bulbs. Installed a 3250DD and it doesn't grab until the pedal is almost fully out. I am not sure what the previous owner put in there. The 510 collar is intimately matched to work with the 510's clutch, after all it came with it. The correct collar for the 510 clutch is part # 30501-K0400. If you let it out just the slightest bit it starts to engage the clutch. Why does my 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee keep needing to be jumped? Check the travel of the push rod. Join Yahoo Answers and get 100 points today. Right now the clutch engages at the very top.   You cannot paste images directly. I would like to confirm if I have the correct part for a 200sx dogleg trans and a 200mm clutch. ! How do i fix this?? It's very light and engages way at the top. When the dealer reads my key everything is okay but sometimes the inactive light comes on and is shaky why? Here's the one for the 510 clutch, top 30501-N1601. This is what the clutch disc is connected to. the adjuster assembaly is on the top of the pedal. Joined: Apr 29, 2009 The clutch is Synthetics can swell the cork on the friction plates causing the clutch to drag. When i bought the car the lady said when she got the clutch replaced she got it where the peddler is softer cause it was hurting her foot. By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use. I've had the car a bit and am mostly used to it but was wondering if this is normal? What causes failure in dry clutch systems? In the center of the flywheel is a smaller bearing that centers the shaft so it can rotate as the clutch assembly engages and disengages. I have had a clutch that grabs a 1/4" off the floorboard and a clutch that grabs 1/4" from the top. ? WHY DIDN'T THE SHOP YOU BROUGHT IT TO ADJUST IT ? Still have questions? 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